16 comments

  • mwnorman2 2 hours ago

    Bill Tutte founded the Department of Combinatorics & Optimization in 1962 at the University of Waterloo (the year I was born!). No one knew about his Bletchley Park work until 1985; later in 2001 he was awarded the Order of Canada (he passed away the following year aged 84). I was amongst the usual group of often confused undergraduates in his C&O classes ... his mind just operated on a level that few of us mere mortals could ever understand!

  • jleyank 7 days ago

    Like the early hackers, he made things. In Flower's case, he made things than enabled hackers (eventually). While theory is important and interesting, actually making sh*t that works moves things forward.

    Yeah, he also helped shorten the war which saved a whole lot of lives.

    • WalterBright an hour ago

      The U-Boot commanders all knew that the Enigma had been cracked, but Admiral Doenitz refused to believe it.

      Rommel's Afrika Korps was also defeated by Enigma, because Rommel also refused to believe it was cracked. Enigma pointed out when and where Rommel's supply ships were.

      No matter how secure your encryption method is, one should always assume it is cracked. Me, I would have backed it up with one-time pads.

      • defrost 41 minutes ago

        > all knew that the Enigma had been cracked, but Admiral Doenitz refused to believe it.

        Whereas:

          The dropping results made Admiral Dönitz suspicious. Although reassured by the Abwehr, the German Foreign Intelligence, that Enigma was unbreakable, he insisted on improving the security of Enigma. On 1 February 1942 the famous Enigma M4 model with four rotors and new key sheets were introduced. 
        
        ~ https://www.ciphermachinesandcryptology.com/en/enigmauboats....

        ~ https://uboat.net/technical/enigma_ciphers.htm

        There were multiple Enigma variations, based on rotor choice pool sizes, number of fittable rotors, time cycles to changing procedures, etc. Some naval enigma variations were broken, others weren't.

      • aspenmayer 37 minutes ago

        > Me, I would have backed it up with one-time pads.

        Even one-time pads are subject to the efforts used to counter Enigma, such as so-called gardening. I fully agree that layers are better than a single method like Enigma was many times in practice, which is usually all-or-none with no failsafe, at least until later in the war, when Enigma variants started being used in combination with coded messages and code words on top of the Enigma cipher machines themselves, but those efforts were foiled by the dedication and planning of the gardeners’ known-plaintext attacks.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardening_(cryptanalysis)

        > In cryptanalysis, gardening is the act of encouraging a target to use known plaintext in an encrypted message, typically by performing some action the target is sure to report. It was a term used during World War II at the British Government Code and Cypher School at Bletchley Park, England, for schemes to entice the Germans to include particular words, which the British called "cribs", in their encrypted messages. This term presumably came from RAF minelaying missions, or "gardening" sorties. "Gardening" was standard RAF slang for sowing mines in rivers, ports and oceans from low heights, possibly because each sea area around the European coasts was given a code-name of flowers or vegetables.

        > The technique is claimed to have been most effective against messages produced by the German Navy's Enigma machines. If the Germans had recently swept a particular area for mines, and analysts at Bletchley Park were in need of some cribs, they might (and apparently did on several occasions) request that the area be mined again. This would hopefully evoke encrypted messages from the local command mentioning Minen (German for mines), the location, and perhaps messages also from the headquarters with minesweeping ships to assign to that location, mentioning the same. It worked often enough to try several times.

        • ramchip 10 minutes ago

          One-time pads are not vulnerable to gardening.

  • charcircuit 16 minutes ago

    >He should be up there with Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and all the rest of them, one of the great figures of the history of computing. He should have made as much money as they did

    I disagree. The amount of value companies like Microsoft and Apple have given the world is many many orders of magnitude than what this guy did. Just being early to field of computing shouldn't automatically make someone a "great."

  • drcongo 3 hours ago

    Pretty sure anyone who knows even a tiny bit of Bletchley Park history is well aware of Tommy Flowers.

    • Animats 15 minutes ago

      People who have visited Bletchley Park or are into early computing history know of Tommy Flowers. Few others do.

      He should have been involved in 1950s computing. But he went back to the Post Office Research Station to work on phone switches again. He did good work on phone switches.[1] But vacuum tubes in phone switches were never a good idea, and the technology of phone switches was its own little world. Fully electronic phone switches were several decades away.

      [1] https://www.communicationsmuseum.org.uk/emuseum/electronicsw...

    • nkrisc an hour ago

      I suppose knowing that they cracked Enigma (and what it is) there and knowing who Alan Turing is qualifies as less than a “tiny” amount because I had no idea who he is, and I would wager that’s more than a large majority of the public know.

    • MattPalmer1086 2 hours ago

      He's certainly in the histories I've read, but I guess most people don't read those.

      Also, his grandson often sits in front of my Mum and Dad at football matches! Although I only found that out a lot later.

    • hecanjog 2 hours ago

      I was under pretty much all the false impressions mentioned in the article, it was a nice introduction for me. The name comes up, but I never connected the dots.

    • aspenmayer 2 hours ago

      Did you ever see them or a character in their role in a movie?

      • ViktorRay 2 hours ago

        I don’t understand why it matters whether someone was in a movie or not.

        It’s a sad commentary on western culture that being in a movie seemingly has the importance that it seems to.

        • Maxatar 2 hours ago

          Doesn't make much sense to say it doesn't matter and also that it's sad.

          If it's sad then it matters, if it doesn't matter then it isn't sad.

        • aspenmayer 2 hours ago

          Art imitates life, except when it doesn’t accurately depict the lived reality and efforts of those who did the work and won the war, in which case it’s arguably closer to myth making. The original author of the James Bond series of books, for example, engaged in this kind of propaganda, arguably with good intentions and positive impact.

          It’s relevant whether or not they were depicted in a movie because that is the context of this thread, because that is the topic of the fine article itself.