Line scan camera image processing for train photography

(daniel.lawrence.lu)

124 points | by dllu 7 hours ago ago

25 comments

  • JKCalhoun 2 hours ago

    Reminds me of the early experiments with using a flat-bed scanner as a digital back. Here is one: https://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/tech/scanner.html

  • bscphil 2 hours ago

    IMO the denoising looks rather unnatural and emphasizes the remaining artifacts, especially color fringe around details. Personally I'd leave that turned off. Also, with respect to the demosaic step, I wonder if it's possible to implement a version of RCD [1] for improved resolution without the artifacts that seem to result from the current process.

    [1] https://github.com/LuisSR/RCD-Demosaicing

    • Cloudef 16 minutes ago

      Yeah, i dont think the denoised result looks that good either

  • lttlrck 21 minutes ago

    They have an amazing painterly quality. I'm not a huge train fan but I'd put some of these on my wall.

  • its-summertime 42 minutes ago

    > Hmm, I think my speed estimation still isn’t perfect. It could be off by about 10%.

    Probably would be worth asking a train driver about this, e.g. "what is a place with smooth track and constant speed"

  • card_zero an hour ago

    It's neat that it captured the shadow of the subway train, too, which arrived just ahead of the train itself. This virtual shadow is thrown against a sort of extruded tube with the profile of the slice of track and wall that the slit was pointed at.

  • GlibMonkeyDeath 2 hours ago

    If you like this sort of thing, check out https://www.magyaradam.com/wp/ too. A lot of his work uses a line scan camera.

    • JKCalhoun 2 hours ago

      The video [https://www.magyaradam.com/wp/?page_id=806] blew my mind. I can only image he reconstructed the video by first reconstructing one frame's worth of slits — then shifting them over by one column and adding the next slit data.

  • ncruces an hour ago

    That's a lot more than I thought I'd want to know about this, but I was totally nerd sniped. Great writeup.

  • whartung 2 hours ago

    These are amazing images. I don't understand what's going on here, but I do like the images.

    • Etheryte 2 hours ago

      Imagine a camera that only takes pictures one pixel wide. Now make it take a picture, for example, 60 times a second and append every pixel-wide image together in order. This is what's happening here, it's a bunch of one pixel wide images ordered by time. The background stays still as it's always the same area captured by that one pixel, resulting in the lines, but moving objects end up looking correct as they're spread out over time.

      At first, I thought this explanation would make sense, but then I read back what I just wrote and I'm not sure it really does. Sorry about that.

      • JKCalhoun 2 hours ago

        Yeah, like walking past a door that's cracked just a bit so you can see into an office only a slit. Now reconstruct the whole office from that traveling slit that you saw.

        Very cool.

      • whartung an hour ago

        No, thank you. This was perfect. It completely explains where the train comes from and where the lines come from.

        Lightbulb on.

        Aha achieved. (Don’t you love Aha? I love Aha.)

      • kiddico 2 hours ago

        It made sense to me!

  • j_bum 3 hours ago

    What a beautiful example of image processing. Great post

  • jeffbee 3 hours ago

    Okay I was stumped about how this works because it's not explained, as far as I can tell. But I guess the sensor array has its long axis perpendicular to the direction the train is traveling.

    • flir 9 minutes ago

      The analogue equivalent (a slit scan camera) is easier to understand, I think https://www.lomography.com/magazine/283280-making-a-slit-sca... https://petapixel.com/2017/10/18/role-slit-scan-image-scienc...

      You can also get close in software. Record some video while walking past a row of shops. Use ffmpeg to explode the video into individual frames. Extract column 0 from every frame, and combine them into a single image, appending each extracted column to the right-hand-side of your output image. You'll end up with something far less accurate than the images in this post, but still fun. Also interesting to try scenes from movies. This technique maps time onto space in interesting ways.

    • eschneider 2 hours ago

      You use a single vertical line of sensors and resample "continuously". When doing this with film, the aperture is a vertical slit and you continuously advance the film during the exposure.

      For "finish line" cameras, the slit is located at the finish line and you start pulling film when the horses approach. Since the exposure is continuous, you never miss the exact moment of the finish.

    • miladyincontrol 3 hours ago

      Line scan sensors are basically just scanners, heck people make em out of scanners .

      Usually the issue is they need rather still subjects, but in this case rather than the sensor doing a scanning sweep they're just capturing the subject as it moves by, keeping the background pixels static.

      • krackers 26 minutes ago

        It only works for trains because the image of train at t+1 is basically image of train at time t shifted over by a few pixels, right? It doesn't seem like this would work to capture a picture of a human, since humans don't just rigidly translate in space as they move.

        • flir 8 minutes ago
        • makeitdouble 12 minutes ago

          If the human is running and doesn't frantically shake it decently works. There's samples of horse race finishing line pics in the article, and they look pretty good IMHO.

          It falls apart when the subject is either static or moves it's limbs faster than the speed the whole subject moves (e.g. fist bumping while slowly walking past the camera would screw it)

    • dllu 3 hours ago

      Thanks, I added a section called "Principle of operation" to explain how it works.

      • blooalien 2 hours ago

        Absolutely fascinating stuff! Thank you so much for adding detailed explanations of the math involved and your process. Always wondered how it worked but never bothered to look it up until today. Reading your page pushed it beyond idle curiosity for me. Thanks for that. And thanks also to HN for always surfacing truly interesting reading material on a daily basis!

      • ansgri 2 hours ago

        What's your FPS/LPS in this setup? I've experimented with similar imaging with an ordinary camera, but LPS was limiting, and I know line-scan machine vision cameras can output some amazing numbers, like 50k+ LPS.