7 comments

  • lolc 11 hours ago

    It's interesting that measuring speech vibration is possible, but on the whole I don't see this as viable attack. One would need to get real close to a target, the cited 60% accuracy is at 50 cm distance. At 300 cm they report 2% which seems on the level of guessing words randomly.

    The "remotely" in the title is no warranted in my view. Of course there may be ways to improve on their results. But so far it seems to me that a highly directional microphone would outperform the radar at any distance. One interesting aspect here is how sensitive the attack is to ambient noise. So maybe sitting close to a target with a radar hidden in headphones, one could glean some words even in a noisy environment like a subway. But I'd still put my money on a microphone performing better in that environment.

    Now I wonder whether the attack would work better on headphones. They are smaller and should vibrate more. On the other hand the surface is smaller, so on the whole they might not provide more signal to a radar.

    • nine_k 4 hours ago

      A microphone could work together with a radar; correlating the two signals may help tell the sound from the noise.

      I suppose that at certain radio frequencies human bodies are mostly translucent, while the small metal membrane is still resolvable. When a head of a person covers well the acoustic signal (the phone is at the opposite ear), a microphone is helpless, but a radar us still fairly usable.

      • lolc an hour ago

        Note that in this study the radar targeted the whole phone, not the membrane.

  • _trampeltier 10 hours ago

    I think the thing with a camera, and detecting the movment of plants and chipsbag around to recreate the sound was much more impressive.

  • Eisenstein 9 hours ago

    You can do something similar with a laser. The laser is reflected off of an object and into an receiver where it is converted into audio. The two techniques differ in methods, but they both rely on measuring the movement of secondary materials affected by sound waves which can then be used to infer speech.

    * https://hackaday.com/2010/09/25/laser-mic-makes-eavesdroppin...

    • SoftTalker 8 hours ago

      Formerly TLA-level technology that you can now build yourself.

      • lelandfe 5 hours ago

        (three letter agency, eg NSA)