5 comments

  • droideqa 9 hours ago

    Reminds me of FoundationDB and Antithesis[0].

    [0]: https://www.warpstream.com/blog/deterministic-simulation-tes...

  • dm3 5 hours ago

    Disadvantages don't list performance hit for proxying every operation through another indirection layer. Can this sort of interface be implemented with zero overhead in Rust?

    • benschulz 4 hours ago

      Most approaches, I assume, will leverage conditional compilation: When (deterministic simulation) testing, use the deterministic async runtime. Otherwise, use the default runtime. That means there's no (runtime) overhead at the cost of increased complexity.

      I'm using DST in a personal project. My biggest issue is that significant parts of the ecosystem either require or prefer your runtime to be tokio. To deal with that, I re-implemented most of tokio's API on top of my DST runtime. Running my DST tests involves patching dependencies which can get messy.

    • reitzensteinm 2 hours ago

      See Tokio's Loom as an example: https://github.com/tokio-rs/loom

      In development, you import Loom's mutex. In production, you import a regular mutex. This of course has zero overhead, but the simulation testing itself is usually quite slow. Only one thread can execute at a time, and many iterations are required.

    • vlovich123 4 hours ago

      I would expect it to be possible depending on how you do it. I would think you just instantiate a different set of interfaces for DST while keeping production code running on a different thing. It’s a little trickier if you also want DST coverage of the executor itself.

      With antithesis that’s all guaranteed of course since you’re running on a VM and the abstraction is a lot lower level.