102 comments

  • mdeeks 15 hours ago

    This is a cute and simple idea!

    I'd like to see what a real physical book looks like before I buy it though. Do you have real pictures of a printed one?

    I think our kids would appreciate seeing the original (even if a small thumbnail) along side it. You can't always tell from these AI drawings that it was originally you and your family.

    Also, it's REALLY expensive. $30 for a book that my kids will draw on in one or two nights and then never touch again is probably too much.

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Thanks! I've added a section at the bottom of the site showing some real photos of an actual coloring book I got in the mail. There are thumbnails of all photos uploaded on the back.

      $24 + postage is the lowest I could reasonably charge for this. Printing costs are a bit more than half of that, OpenAI charge a surprising amount for image generation, but there is also a good amount of human effort (and creative choices) in generating the book. It's not a fully automated process and I hope that's evident from the quality of the end product.

    • subpixel 14 hours ago

      It’s not cheap, but my kids treasure coloring books for a long time and probably one like this until it falls apart.

    • zakki 14 hours ago

      To the author, I have this idea, for each page, put a sheet of transparent plastic or something like that. So the owner will color the plastic which can be erased. But it may increase the cost anc the color may not stick to the plastic.

  • simianparrot 2 hours ago

    Every example is the Studio Ghibli style. Tasteless and no respect for the studio and its legacy.

    I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it. But I guess not everyone cares as long as it might earn you a few dollars…

    • true_religion an hour ago

      I suggest that they use the Disney style. It’s similarly popular and well known but no one will stand up to protect it since it’s a multi billion dollar company that we already know has no respect for artists or artistic legacy.

  • sharkjacobs 15 hours ago

    from clevercoloringbook.com:

        > Please only upload photos that are in line with OpenAI's Usage Policy.
        > We are not able to include any photos that do not follow their policy in the final printed book.
    
    from openai.com/policies

        > Editing uploaded images or videos that contain real people under the age of 18 is not permitted.
    
    The first two sample pictures on the page contain of adolescent children. Are you concerned about this apparent contradiction?
    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Great point. As per our TOS - users of the site must be over 18 and have the consent of everyone in the image (i.e. their own kids, relations etc).

      I put that line about OpenAI's usage policy there for practical reasons. If someone orders something that OpenAI refuses to generate (like a photo of Bart Simpson say), then I can't include it in the printed book. With this project, if someone uploads content that's in any way inappropriate, we'll see it and refuse to fulfill the order (and take other appropriate actions, if needed)

    • mdeeks 15 hours ago

      I'm not the OP, but during the recent Studio Ghiblification craze there were a huge number of photos of families and kids passing along in facebook, twitter, and other social media. It was literally everywhere you looked. OpenAI obviously saw all of that. I don't think they actually care unless it's something bordering on illegal.

    • ks2048 9 hours ago

      > "that contain real people"

      It seems the loophole on this site, is the examples (by my best guess) are AI.

  • mmastrac 15 hours ago

    The comics look pretty Miyazaki-inspired, like all of the comics I've seen lately. I've kinda started to dislike this look because it's _everywhere_ that low-effort comics are these days.

    Maybe worth trying to train a better style for this. This is probably something where you could put a little effort in up-front (ie: using a model that's for segmentation to get outlines, using some classic image-processing for boundary detection) and then have AI touch it up a little more lightly and a less of the "default" style.

    Also, do you have AI images for the "real world" samples on the left? They have a certain "I don't exactly know what, but it's creeping me out" vibe.

    • ronsor 15 hours ago

      It doesn't look particularly Miyazaki style to me; it's just a generic cartoon style.

      I think the Ghiblipocalypse has gotten people on edge.

    • rafram 15 hours ago

      This has zero resemblance to Miyazaki’s style. (And I say that as someone who isn’t a fan of this idea at all.)

  • barbazoo 14 hours ago

    For anyone looking for a prompt to do this manually, it seems to be as simple as this:

    > Generate a version of this photo that can be used as a coloring sheet

    • darajava 8 hours ago

      Close enough! The prompt I use is:

      > Make this a page in a colouring book. The drawing is in a simple Studio Ghibli portrait style. Bleed all the way to the edges. Background colour is #ffffff and lines are bold and #000000. There is no shading or crossthatching.

    • level09 3 hours ago

      Anyone else feeling this weird vibe in the age of AI? You get a cool new idea, but then you think about how easy it is for someone else to replicate it, and you end up not doing it.

    • an0malous 10 hours ago

      The OP looks like it runs images through a Ghibli filter first

    • sen 12 hours ago

      Yeah I've been doing this with image-gen AIs pretty much since they started and it's a lot of fun. Even early Dall-E etc was awesome at doing stuff like "Create a colouring in sheet with some dinosaurs having a party" or generic prompts like that, and more recently giving photos to convert has been loads of fun for the kids.

    • thehappypm 11 hours ago

      I’ve done this a bunch with my son. It’s not quite that simple because often times it’ll create images that have too much detail, sometimes it’ll actually include colors. But yeah, it’s not really all that complicated

  • zeroq 9 hours ago

    This is fucking amazing!

    Everyone and their mother are trying to hop on the band wagon of AI and make a half assed service just because it may sell just due to the "ai" tag attached to it - this is different!

    Chapeau bas! It's simple but brilliant. It's a great example of what a good idea is - with minimal effort he made an epic product focusing not an AI, but what AI can bring to the table and executing it flawlessly. Hats off!

    • laborcontract 9 hours ago

      i've been doing this with my child and picture books. i take pictures of pages, convert it to a coloring book, print it, and then we color her favorite books together.

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Thanks so much! Really glad you like it.

    • waynesonfire 6 hours ago

      You're uploading your family pictures.. nevermind. Go enjoy your coloring book.

  • rafram 14 hours ago

    For what it’s worth (and it’s probably not much), it doesn’t cost that much to commission comic book-style art from an actual artist online. When you do that, the proceeds go to an artist, not to an AI company that stole from them and a software developer who wrote a wrapper around their API.

    • ipaddr 13 hours ago

      In fairness no artists are advertising a personal coloring book. The time, effort and cost would put this out of reach for 99.99 of people.

      No artists are losing income because of this and no industry is being upended. This is a new product that's available because of a technology advanced.

      Why the focus the artist? Everytime you order in food online you take away a tip from a host, server, bartender and take away a job from a person who answers a phone. Why focus on artists when so many have been affected by technology.

    • calebio 13 hours ago

      Usually when you commission something you're asking the artist to do art and create something unique with their own artistic flair... not just line-trace an existing photo.

      The intention and cost of something like that is not at all comparable to what is being offered here.

    • patch_collector 10 hours ago

      I tried to do exactly that once. I was offering between $20-$40 per image to make a few coloring pages as a mother's day gift for my wife. Not complex images either -- just basic coloring pages from photos of my wife and child, without backgrounds, for my kids to color in.

      I reached out to multiple artists, and got one image back (from a good friend). I gave up on commissioning actual artists, and traced the images myself on a tablet. I imagine someone with the right knowledge of where to find artists and the willingness to wait on their schedule could have done it faster, but I'd have used this service if it had been around.

    • darajava 6 hours ago

      I can't imagine how much it would cost to commission an artist to do a whole coloring book and then organize them and send them to print but it's a good point. AI is never going to be as good as a real commissioned artist, but this idea makes having something similar far more accessible to a lot of people.

    • richardw 14 hours ago

      My opinion isn’t fully formed but I currently think either all content producers have a claim (potentially workable as eg a discount), or only those who contribute should get access to AI’s.

      And by all I mean the AI companies owe a huge debt to all humans who wrote or designed or drew anything. The vast majority of the benefit of this technology relies on volume: the billions of pages and lines of code we wrote for other humans, but have now been repurposed. This technology relies on bulk, which was mainly unprofessional or freely given content, by those who intended it for other humans. It was not 100% built only on the output of the few who charge for their exquisite words or designs, even if their output is higher quality.

      Alternatively, let the AI companies go for it but everyone who uses any kind of AI should understand that they’re standing on the shoulders of the millions of developers and nonprofessional writers whose work has now been repurposed. Not the few artists and journalists. So those artists and journalists should both refuse to contribute to, and use, AI.

      * I’ve written very little of this useful content, but would be happy to pay my share to those that have built what we have. I also turn off training on my content, but I pay a lot for models. Feel free to help me think through this with comments of your own.

    • jstummbillig 13 hours ago

      If it does not cost that much, that is obviously because the artist is too cheap. If you find that to be a preferable equilibrium, that's a choice I guess, but I find it fairly ironic in light of the purported motivation.

    • thehappypm 11 hours ago

      I can get ChatGPT to do this for literally free. Even in the free tier, I can get a couple images per day.

    • bix6 13 hours ago

      This is a cool technological feat but what is the cost to humanity and its artists?

      Some of these replies seem rather dismissive to the artists’ plight.

    • paulcole 14 hours ago

      If this person’s service was to pay human artists $24 for a 23 page custom coloring book you’d be crying on here about them not paying human artists enough.

      Almost nobody is paying $100 or more for a custom 5-page coloring book.

      This service isn’t taking work from human artists.

    • yieldcrv 12 hours ago

      Those transactions never would have happened, and never will happen.

    • warkdarrior 14 hours ago

      Maybe, but then I have to negotiate with the artist, handle their refusal to draw art of my choosing, and wait for their (possibly unpredictable) schedule. AIs mostly avoid these problems.

    • op00to 14 hours ago

      Didn’t the artist “steal” from artists that came before them by looking at and taking inspiration from their photos? Especially ones that would do such artistic genres as commercial coloring book art?

  • pknerd 4 hours ago

    Congrats!

    I would like to know the cost of the tokens you are paying for an image. How many pages coloring book will be created against $24 book?

    • darajava 4 hours ago

      Thank you!

      OpenAI costs are surprisingly expensive. It's about $7 to generate a whole book (24 pages). There are 8-24 images allowed in a book, with a cover too. So there'll be 48 max pages in a book (incl blank pages).

  • riidom 2 hours ago

    Maybe I am thinking a bit meta here. But who is supposed to colorize these pages? Kids that are in the progress of learning to instead use AI for everything? It can surely deliver better results quicker, after all.

    Same question would be relevant if you wouldn't have used AI to generate these outlines, of course.

    I just want to point out there is a certain irony of the "cut the branch you are sitting on"-kind here.

    Edit: typo

  • DrakeDeaton 7 hours ago

    Not sure if you're aware, but if you're interested in SEO/AEO marketing, there's very healthy monthly traffic for long-tail searches in this area. Some searches getting towards 100K per month.

    Love the idea! Good luck.

    • jdthedisciple 3 hours ago

      Where do you get that from?

    • darajava 6 hours ago

      I don't know much about it, feel free to send an email to dara@clevercoloringbook.com

  • vb7132 2 hours ago

    This is an awesome. I had a similar one: Convert the dense non-fiction books into something more readable. eg. SAPIENS vs UNSTOPPABLE US.

    But this makes me wonder: What is the barrier to entry for these apps now? Anyone can do it. There is going to be a barrage of apps/websites like this?

    • faeyanpiraat 2 hours ago

      Why would you do that to Sapiens, it's an enjoyable read

  • nesk_ 2 hours ago

    Love it! Finally a product that properly leverages AI :)

  • sathishmanohar 4 hours ago

    I'm from India. I was looking for a service like this but without sending me a physical book part.

    I'd use this at @ $10 price point if I'm able get downloadable a4 coloring pages from a picture. It would be great. Also this way your customer base becomes international.

    $10 for 20 pictures is a good price point for me. Pretty expensive but I'd still go for it.

    • darajava 3 hours ago

      I'll implement this today.

      Edit: I've implemented this! It's a lot of code changes so I hope I didn't break anything.

  • Huppie 5 hours ago

    I've been using (mostly) the OpenAI image generator for quite some time generating coloring pages, it's pretty decent at it and can generate just about anything my kids want as long as you word it a bit neutral to avoid it generating (something it recognizes as) copyrighted content.

    Great idea to turn your own photos into a coloring book generator!

    Edit: I wonder how you prevent it from generating copyrighted content when people upload e.g. 'photos' of Disney content? Or has that not been a problem yet?

    • darajava 4 hours ago

      Thanks! Hasn't been a problem yet, but if that happens I'd just email the customer directly and ask for a replacement photo/if it's okay to leave that one out.

  • OPBoot 3 hours ago

    Oh, sorry - I'm going to be that person....

    Your step 2 is wrong :-) > Step 2: We convert them into a high-quality physical coloring book with OpenAI’s brand-new Sora model, then send it out for printing.

    You don't convert it into a physical book /before/ sending it for printing.

    • darajava 2 hours ago

      Oh, lol. Nice catch - I'll fix that.

  • ugh123 8 hours ago

    Love it! Idea: option to print "mini books".

    I have some kids that still color, and it would be great to keep something in my pocket to give them quick with a crayon or pen.

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      I was thinking of doing different sizes alright! They might not be too much cheaper, that's the only problem I can think of there.

  • ks2048 9 hours ago

    Suggestions:

    * one full PDF (including cover) of an example book.

    * don't use AI images as examples - it's not obvious if the outline version will look as good on real images.

    • darajava 8 hours ago

      Thank you, I agree and I'll update the example photos.

      I didn't add a PDF but I added some photos of the real end product to the bottom of the landing page now.

  • zengineer 6 hours ago

    Well done - I like the style of the page and simplicity!

    We recently created one too, where you get a printable version: dibulo.com/editor - the next step will be to bring the templates to life again.

  • vunderba 15 hours ago

    You'll want to really drive home the niche (through your feature set) that it's for family photos, because the generic photo to AI vectorized coloring book service has been done to death.

    • darajava 8 hours ago

      Can you show me an example? I think before 2-3 days ago this wasn't really possible without the output images looking really bad.

  • avereveard 5 hours ago

    They have an api now? amazing! I have been using gemini flash but results are... less than stellar.

    • darajava 4 hours ago

      Yes! https://openai.com/index/image-generation-api/

      I was very excited when it came out. Google have Imagen 3 (is that the same as Gemini Flash?), but you need special access to be able to edit images. I haven't tested it yet but I think it's a lot cheaper than OpenAI

    • pknerd 4 hours ago

      Gemini has released new models, maybe they are better.

      Also, I request you to expand further, why Gemini is not better?

  • avree 14 hours ago

    Cool idea and really nice looking site.

    Pricing is quite high - 24 pages maximum for $23.99. There are 100-page coloring books on Amazon for $5.00, and the age group that really would be using this is not going to remember what was on the page a week from the day they did it.

    Maybe it can work in the nice of "adult coloring books" - I've seen some social media content where people really go crazy on coloring books, and being able to get nice physical copy to work off could appeal there.

    • subpixel 14 hours ago

      Presumably you aren’t the parent of a 5-7 year-old child. I might try this manually and save some money but my kids will absolutely cherish coloring themselves, their friends, and their parents. We’re on vacation now and this is gonna be big when we get back.

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Thanks! I priced it as low as I could given the costs of printing the book, Sora's API costs, and the human effort that goes into it (there are some creative choices to be made too!). The 100 page books you see on Amazon aren't personalized and probably not the best quality. I'm also hoping a completed page from one of these books will be a nice keepsake for the parents as well as being more of an incentive for a child to exercise some creativity.

  • osigurdson 9 hours ago

    I tried copying the one of the photos into ChatGPT and asked it to make me a coloring book style image out of it. It is definitely not as good as this site (i.e. I don't think kids would recognize themselves). Good prompting!

    • pknerd 4 hours ago

      Ask GPT to give you a prompt that would create a color book :-)

      I always use LLMs for meta-prompting. They know themselves better than others :>

  • abaymado 15 hours ago

    I like GPT wrapper's that let me personalize/customize existing real world things, and this a good example of that. I like it.

  • darkxanthos 12 hours ago

    Wow a lot of criticism. I'm considering a similar business. I think this is too expensive when printing this is so easy these days. But charging some small about per printable coloring book would be very attractive.

    • darajava 6 hours ago

      The printing aspect of this wasn't too easy... I wish I could charge less but as it stands (especially with surprising API costs) I'm barely making a profit on this.

  • Terretta 14 hours ago

    Seems like this cat (and various variants in similar settings) was a top rated image in Sora's explore/images a week ago. Was it yours, should it be credited, or did you hit edit prompt<enter> to get a variant?

    No worries, just wondering how that should work.

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Wow, yes you're right. I did in fact take that image from the Sora homepage because I thought it was cute.

      I pretty much just assumed they're all in the public domain. I can't find the image anymore so I've decided to remove it for now. I generated the other three myself.

  • themanmaran 15 hours ago

    Nice and simple! I'm excited for all the fun micro businesses that get enabled by the new image API.

    Things like your coloring book, instant sticker/tshirt/swag creation, video game assets, etc.

    Also love the "tap 5 times for a discount" feature.

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Thank you! I was happy with the discount thing alright but it's not useful for tracking referrals unfortunately.

  • ks2048 11 hours ago

    This is a great idea and looks well done.

    I wonder if printing services (Lulu?) have a automatic API or if it requires some manual intervention? (And the shipping part?)

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Thanks! There is a good bit of manual effort involved on our side - we generate the images, regen any that don't look great, choose the best cover, and then send the PDF to Lulu. It's dropshipped, we never see the physical book.

  • schuettla 6 hours ago

    great idea! how did you realize the actual producing of the book? you connect to some print on demand api like from printify?

    • darajava 17 minutes ago

      Yes I use the Lulu API. It's great!

  • ks2048 9 hours ago

    Can you preview the images? I uploaded one image and don't see the outline-version.

    • darajava 8 hours ago

      No, it's not a real-time process. We have an admin panel to generate the images, cover and PDF. There is a good bit of human input involved.

  • gitroom 13 hours ago

    Nicely done, Ive always wanted something like this for my family pics. you think AI-generated art will ever feel as special as something handmade?

    • darajava 17 minutes ago

      I mean it's pretty close. The handmade element comes from coloring it in.

  • hamiecod 11 hours ago

    How did the launch go? Could you share Revenue stats after the first 24 hours of the launch?

  • sabslikesobs 11 hours ago

    Do you ever handle the physical book, or is this a fully automated drop-shipping operation?

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      There is a good bit of manual effort involved on our side before we send the book to print - we generate the images, regen any that don't look great, choose the best cover, and then send the PDF to Lulu. Yes it's dropshipped, we never see the physical book.

  • transformi 12 hours ago

    Why don't you use canny/HED filter :O? (seems pretty overkill for this job..)

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Canny filter: https://i.imgur.com/Ju7Ggac.png

      Sora: https://clevercoloringbook.com/samples/3_cartoon.png

      I've had this idea years ago and searched extensively for a way to turn images into nice line art, but it turns out there needs to be a good bit of creativity (AI) to do so. Old school computer science techniques don't cut it.

    • jw1224 12 hours ago

      Do you not think the AI output looks far more polished and print-ready? Canny edges have a lot of noise and don't look at all clean for coloring book purposes.

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    • darajava 7 hours ago

      Oh nice catch! Fixed, thanks.

  • xnx 14 hours ago

    Is there somewhere to download a PDF to print out?

    • darajava 7 hours ago

      No, but perhaps I could add this as a paid option.

  • pelagicAustral 13 hours ago

    Awesome idea, implementation and design!

  • kelvinjps10 14 hours ago

    Why not just an option to print the image?

    • beering 13 hours ago

      You can simply open up Chatgpt and generate the image yourself, faster than it’d take to transact with this third party. The cool thing is that they are printing a physical book for you.

    • ks2048 11 hours ago

      Presumably, it’s more profitable to sell a physical book, which makes sense.

  • jaredcwhite 11 hours ago

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  • MaxLeiter 12 hours ago

    For those interested in building something similar, I prompted a story book generator using v0 and Gemini’s image generation a few weeks ago:

    Demo: https://v0-story-maker.vercel.app/

    The chat: https://v0.dev/chat/ai-story-book-creator-zw7TrmkN2Eb

    • pknerd 4 hours ago

      wow!!!!

      Any idea how much it costs to create a book?

    • r0fl 11 hours ago

      The quality of the images is incredible! Great job

      How much does the api cost to run? Do you have any safe guards in place in case bots try to build 1000 stories?