A 1980s toy robot arm inspired modern robotics

(technologyreview.com)

80 points | by danso 3 days ago ago

43 comments

  • brk 6 hours ago

    I remember saving birthday money and buying this at Radio Shack as a kid. It was pretty advanced for the time. Then I had the idea to try and make it remote controlled, or just fiddle with the internal electronics a bit. Joke was on me, there were no electronics, this thing was 100% mechanical. A single DC motor, and a fuck ton of gears that were engaged/disengaged by manipulating the two joysticks.

    This toy probably equally inspired kids to go into robotics, or to design automotive transmissions.

  • stevenjgarner 5 hours ago

    I would put the HERO (Heathkit Educational RObot) in both the same category and the era. [1] HERO came with "an optional arm mechanism and speech synthesizer was produced for the kit form and included in the assembled form". Huge influence on my own life.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HERO_(robot)

  • ChuckMcM 4 hours ago

    I ended up buying three of these as I was going to convert one to computer control. Last year at the ASVARO swap meet I sold the last one I had which had never been opened :-). The guy who bought it was pretty excited to have it (which is the goal of getting rid of one's junk right?)

    They were marvels. The only "practical" way to convert them was to put solenoids on the controls to drive them and it was impractical for any repeatable fine grain control. If I ever get a chance to meet the person behind that design I'd certainly buy them a round of their favorite beverage.

  • userbinator an hour ago

    The fact that someone has converted one to run on steam is very appropriate given that the single-power-source design was the norm for industry until the 20th century, and it's not hard to imagine in a steampunk universe a much scaled-up, metal version of this arm in a factory, powered by a lineshaft:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_shaft

  • brudgers 2 days ago
  • irickt 8 hours ago

    Tandy Armatron Dissection http://www.starborneworks.com/?p=22

  • EncomLab 9 hours ago

    I spent hours playing with mine in the mid 80's! The key takeaway - then and now - is that you can generate an incredible variety of motion with a single motor and a well designed gear-box; no software required!

  • eterpstra 9 hours ago

    I had this thing and loved it but it WAS SO G$DD$MN LOUD!!!!!

    It was like the sound of a pile of silverware dumped into a garbage disposal played at full volume over an AM radio.

    Great controls, though.

    • userbinator 2 hours ago

      A bit of lube may help quiet it down, but otherwise I think it's quite reminiscent of how a lot of heavy equipment at the time operated, with an engine that's idling whenever it isn't driving some part through a clutch.

    • Mountain_Skies 6 hours ago

      It was made for Radio Shack by Tomy, who made lots of battery operated toys in that era that were very complex and clever amalgamations of plastic parts. My sister had Tomy's 'Dream Dancer', which was obnoxiously loud, though you don't see that in the advertisements. She never got a second set of batteries once the Christmas day set gave out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K8ZP1pnP78

      • manyturtles 6 hours ago

        Yep. Sold in the UK as the Tomy ROBO-1. Had great fun playing with it, never knew people had hooked them up to computers. Echoing others' comments, the drive was noisy even when stationary. And it didn't seem to have any sensors to let it know when it had reached the limit of any particular motion. Instead the plastic gears would start to skip loudly with a usefully intuitive "if you keep doing that I'll break" sound.

  • hedora an hour ago

    I’m surprised these aren’t still made!

    I wonder how far you could get in 2025 with cnc routers/lasers and 3d printers.

  • gene-h 8 hours ago

    A similar single motor robot hand has been made that uses electrostatic clutches instead of mechanical clutches[O].

    [0]https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.08469

  • pryelluw 6 hours ago

    We had one of these and it definitely sparked my long running interest in robotics. Which expanded into small scale robotics manufacturing and then onto 3d printing. I’m now playing with LLMs to discover ways to incorporate into smaller robots. More excited these days about what is to come.

  • firesteelrain 7 hours ago

    Used to play with this. Always wanted one - my best friend had one

  • petermcneeley 9 hours ago

    Is my computer hacked or is everyone else seeing a giant subscribe banner on this page?

  • A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 7 hours ago

    Somewhat related to this. What would recommend for a young kid 5 and up to get start in today's robotics. The issue today seems more like there is a lot.. which is kinda opposite to what when I was growing up ( if it existed in toy form, it was prohibitively expensive at best ).

  • siavosh 8 hours ago

    Is there a modern version of this as a toy for a kid?

  • WillAdams 7 hours ago

    Would it be possible to replicate this mechanism using Lego Technic bricks/mechanisms?

    • pvorb 5 hours ago

      There's an industrial robot arm built out of LEGO Technic bricks by OrangeApps, a small company related to German robot manufacturer KUKA. [1] It's primarily used for educational purposes.

      Disclaimer: I work for a subsidiary of KUKA.

      [1]: https://www.orangeapps.de/?lng=en&page=apps%2Fers3

    • kbouck 6 hours ago

      didn't read article due to paywall, but the answer is most likely yes. i was able to build a basic 2-degrees-of-freedom robot-arm grabber using lego technic and power functions and was controlled by scratch on a raspberry pi. lego also has pneumatics.

  • chrisweekly 6 hours ago

    Oh man this takes me back. Armatron and Speak-N-Spell were so great!

  • thedougd 7 hours ago

    Oh man, I completely forgot I had a robot arm as a kid. I had the "Mobile Armatron" variant:

    https://www.theoldrobots.com/armatron3.html

  • victor106 7 hours ago

    Any recommendation on a robotic kit that can be purchased now?

  • fmajid 6 hours ago

    My little brother had one, circa 1985. I don't think the educational content was all that great, compared to our Apple II+.

  • gedy 9 hours ago

    I'm impressed Hiroyuki Watanabe was only 24 years old when he invented/led this.

    > “I didn’t have a period where I studied engineering professionally. Instead, I enrolled in what Japan would call a technical high school that trains technical engineers, and I actually [entered] the electrical department there,” he told me.

    I think this approach is sorely needed again, in the US at least.

    • Swizec 8 hours ago

      I went to a technical high school for software engineering in Slovenia and it was fantastic. We learned C/C++, SQL, relational data modeling, basics of OOP, assembly for microcontrollers, IT administrator stuff, networking/internet, some basics of web development, a little about operating systems.

      I did go to study CS after high school (despite getting a job midway through my senior year), but I still draw on the things I learned in high school every day. It was great. Gave me a lot of practical foundations.

    • petermcneeley 8 hours ago

      The grass was so green back then. Today leaves are brown and there is a patch of snow on the ground.

    • gopher_space 5 hours ago

      We have technical high schools for all kinds of subjects all over the place. Our community colleges are also doing everything HN thinks they should be doing, and they started like thirty years ago.

    • hinkley 8 hours ago

      There was a math and science school in my state but it was a boarding school, and that did not seem like a good idea for me.

  • chillingeffect 9 hours ago

    There was an article in i think Radio Electronics at the time to connect it to a C64.

    • jim_lawless 9 hours ago

      There was a pretty detailed article in the May 1985 Radio Electronics that mentioned interfacing it to a VIC-20:

      https://archive.org/details/radio_electronics_1985-05/page/n...

      Transactor Magazine volume 7, issue 4 (1987 ) had an article on interfacing it to a C64:

      https://archive.org/details/transactor-magazines-v7-i04/mode...

    • Mountain_Skies 7 hours ago

      Hot Coco had an article about hooking it up to the TRS-80 Color Computer.

      https://colorcomputerarchive.com/repo/Documents/Magazines/Ho...

      >By moving the joystick (a mechanical linkage), you select one of a series of rotating cams that connect a gear to the power shaft. This is probably the worst design possible for modification to electronic control.

      At the time I was disappointed that it didn't use (non-existing) motors already in the Armatron but looking back at it with an understanding of the mechanical design, it's easy to see why they went with that decision. The only other choice would have been to connect to the joysticks themselves. The added motors probably improved the operation quite a bit.

      • chillingeffect 6 hours ago

        Ahhh so it had only motor that got switched in and out mechanically, eh? That must be why it was always whirring even when not moving. I guess small motors were not cheap back then :)

  • whartung 8 hours ago

    Friend had one of these. I think he got it from Radio Shack. This was right up their alley.

  • shove 8 hours ago

    I still have the muscle memory for these controls. I was completely gobsmacked when I disassembled it and saw the concentric rings of gears. Very very cool.