Mercator: Extreme

(mrgris.com)

179 points | by bschne 21 hours ago ago

43 comments

  • bangaladore 20 hours ago

    Not the same idea, but the same category. You can Drag countries to different places on the Mercator projection to see how they warp and change size.

    Classic example is moving Greenland onto the US. Or Russia. Russia isn't talked about much in this case, but its dramatic how it changes.

    https://www.thetruesize.com/

    • saghm 11 hours ago

      An example I saw in school is that (if I remember correctly) you can fit the continental US, Europe, and China all inside Africa with some room to spare (and maybe a couple other large things I'm forgetting!)

    • jvanderbot 20 hours ago

      Oh so the whole UK would fit in Texas, USA a couple times.

      And Greenland is like CA, OR, WA, NV combined.

      Good to know.

    • aylmao 18 hours ago

      Some very impressive ones to look at here:

      - Colombia is about as tall as the USA's West Coast.

      - Brazil is comparable to Canada.

      - Indonesia is wider than Europe.

      • KineticLensman 2 hours ago

        And the distance from Oslo to the top of Norway is similar to the distance from Oslo to Rome

      • OccamsMirror 10 hours ago

        Australia is also one that blows people's minds. Larger than Western and Central Europe combined.

    • cluckindan 18 hours ago

      ”We and our 727 technology partners ask you to consent…”

      I would bet the billionaires in Trump’s good boys club are in it for the pardons they need after justice realizes what is being done with everyone’s personal data.

  • HPsquared 2 hours ago

    It looks especially cool if you switch the overlay to "Google Satellite". You can see the different scale levels a bit better.

    https://mrgris.com/projects/merc-extreme/#a473b325@55.86116,...

    EDIT: you can also click the "folded map icon" button and you see the coordinates transformed back into normal ones and shown on a map with X and Y corresponding to radius and azimuth from the centre. Extremely cool!

  • elil17 17 hours ago

    This reminds me of "The View of the World from 9th Avenue": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_World_from_9th_Ave...

    • pmayrgundter 6 hours ago

      You can see it on his map.. it's one of the pre-configured waypoints (top right map symbol)

  • mkehrt 20 hours ago

    Is this really a Mercator projection? It doesn't appear to maintain the invariant that lines of constant bearing are straight lines.

    If I pick a point somewhere in the middle of Manhattan, the top point of Manhattan is somewhere near the top of the light colored area and the bottom point of Manhattan nearish the bottom of the light colored area. This means that if I draw straight lines on the the map from San Francisco to these two points, the angle between them is something like 30 degrees. They pass through very roughly the top and bottom of Nevada. But there's no line of constant bearing that passes from SF through the top of Nevada to the top of Manhattan while at the same time one that passes through the bottom of Nevada to the bottom of Manhattan.

    This is all very wishy-washy, but it doesn't look right to me.

    • mbrubeck 20 hours ago

      "Lines of constant bearing" (or "rhumb lines") depend on the choice of poles.

      A rhumb line relative to true north looks straight on a standard Mercator projection, but can look like a spiral on another Mercator-style projection where the pole and center-point have been swapped.

      • mkehrt 20 hours ago

        Oh, that's an interesting point. Maybe that's what's going on. It's hard to picture such a line with a different pole.

    • sureIy 7 hours ago

      I think it's just a play on the fact that mercator distorts distances significantly, rather than actually being accurate. It's a 3-second website you open, exhale in hilarity and close.

  • bmenrigh 18 hours ago

    If you search for "90,0" and then use the change orientation button to put the south pole on the bottom of the screen you can recover the more familiar distorted map.

    Other choices really do put into perspective how distorted this projection is.

  • michalc 20 hours ago

    I made something along these lines a while back too: https://projections.charemza.name/

    • aylmao 18 hours ago

      I like the simplicity of yours!

  • CapmCrackaWaka 2 hours ago

    Anyone know how I could convert this to an HD image? Interested in seeing if I can frame it centered on my house.

  • trane_project 12 hours ago

    Mexico City is great for this because it points you to the central square. You can see the avenues spiraling out of the square, some of which follow the same routes as the avenues that lead to the city-island of prehispanic times (Calzada de Tlalpan, for example).

  • amai 7 hours ago

    A globe is always the best projection. Unfortunately it fell out of fashion to have one on your desk.

    • zokier 6 hours ago

      Try plotting a course with a straightedge on a globe. Or seeing two regions that are on different hemispheres.

      • panki27 5 hours ago

        1. Use a string

        2. Get a second globe

        • asadotzler 3 hours ago

          In a former life and trade, I used straight edged rulers to measure effectively on convex surfaces by simply tilting the edge forward rounding the convex surface, riding it along until I hit my mark and reading the value.

        • psychoslave 5 hours ago

          For 2, a small mirror can do the trick too.

  • pvg 21 hours ago
  • sparsely 5 hours ago

    Would be interesting to see comparisons between this and very old historical maps, I bet some are not far off.

  • zeeed 9 hours ago

    Finally! I’m a kid of the 80s and I’ve been waiting for this for so long! Thank you!

  • nelblu 17 hours ago

    Incidentally a friend just shared this with me earlier today : https://www.thetruesize.com/

  • Ajedi32 17 hours ago

    Reminds me of bad map projection #45: Exterior Kansas[1].

    [1]: https://xkcd.com/2951/

  • maxlin 2 hours ago

    my head hurts

  • patternMachine 21 hours ago

    Essentially the plot of The Inverted World.

  • kzrdude 16 hours ago

    I honestly wonder why I find this so skin-crawling and unsettling. Something about the distortion of a familiar shape.

  • fmajid 20 hours ago

    Remember that "The West Wing" episode where geographers petition the White House chief of staff to replace the Mercator projection with the more accurate and less Euro/US-centric Peters one? This one looks designed to stroke the Yuge ego of one Donald J Trump...

    • bruce511 12 hours ago

      I remember that episode well, and had cause recently (size of Greenland in the news) to show someone else the same thing.

      In the Peter's projection the size of the US and especially Europe, become "smaller" relative to say the size of Africa.

      It can be quite disconcerting to a person when their "place in the world" is challenged at such a fundamental level.

    • bschne 18 hours ago
  • somishere 18 hours ago

    This is basically how my mind works. Mind projection.

  • Theodores 17 hours ago

    Brilliant fun. Do change the layers and orientation, to play with the suggested locations!

  • jumperabg 20 hours ago

    This is information that a specific Earth community must not access, it will cause flat out chaos!