GenChess

(labs.google)

73 points | by xnx 4 hours ago ago

68 comments

  • LZ_Khan 3 hours ago

    This is freakin awesome but do the creators even play chess? Playing chess from that viewing angle is unpleasant as hell.

    Imagine putting all your work into creating an amazing demo and then drowning it with one design decision.

    Edit: Ok I see that you can change the view in settings. They should make that option more visible.

    • zatkin 3 hours ago

      I wish I had read this comment before I closed the game I had spent 15 minutes on...

    • tooltower 2 hours ago

      I still don't see the settings. Can anyone help?

      • jonwachob91 2 hours ago

        gear icon next to the clock in bottom left -> board view -> switch to "flat"

  • ZiiS 3 hours ago

    Better link (at least for the many who can't get the actual service) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGEhp3WBMcg

  • pelagicAustral 3 hours ago

    "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions."

    Quack!

    • winrid an hour ago

      It also doesn't seem to let you generate chess sets inspired by many political figures or other popular names. While you can't generate a Kamala Harris inspired chess set, you also can't generate a Bob Ross inspired chess set...

      • op00to an hour ago

        Star Wars worked for me, but not a modern chess set based on lies.

    • dvfjsdhgfv 2 hours ago

      Just a small finger from Google to the EU.

      • estebarb an hour ago

        Costa Rica is not in the EU and we were discriminated as well.

    • pona-a 3 hours ago

      Yes, my religion forbids me from interacting in any shape with any Abominable Intelligence. I am thankful to the Google corporation from protecting my eyes from this unholy threat.

      • TeMPOraL 2 hours ago

        TIL: apparently, mine too. Thank you Google for protecting me from spiritual threats I wasn't even aware of.

  • blakeburch 2 hours ago

    I'm on Android using Chrome and got the following error.

    "Access blocked: GenChess’s request does not comply with Google’s policies"

    Kinda funny to run into that error for a product published by Google.

  • BriggyDwiggs42 2 hours ago

    Wait is this just an image generator? Am I missing something really cool here?

    • slater 2 hours ago

      Click "Generate opponent" then u can play chess against them

    • pphysch 2 hours ago

      Look how easily they just fabricated 100% of a game's assets, with a consistent, high quality style, and then put them right into the game environment. That's the takeaway IMO. Very tight GenAI loop.

      • moomin 2 hours ago

        Anyone else note the pawns are often a bit odd?

      • furyofantares 2 hours ago

        It is a game with 12 static assets.

        • steren 2 hours ago

          you forgot to mention: "where you pick the style of the assets"

      • runarberg an hour ago

        I‘m not a game dev so I might be missing something, but this hardly looks high quality to me. The set I get is very inconsistent and lacking in any central theme, or otherwise interesting or clean design. If I regenerate one peace in isolation, say a knight, I get something completely different that looks as if you lost the knight from your set and just took replacement knights from another set at random.

        The time it takes to generate a set is also significant, as a web-dev this takes for ever, and I would be very reluctant to offer this experience to my users. Doesn’t feel fluent, nor tight at all.

        Plus a silly mistakes like the knights facing the wrong way, different sizes, etc. Seeing this, I certainly hope game designers (at least in online chess) will stay away from generative AI, for a while at least.

  • ButterWashed 3 hours ago

    I'm fascinated by what prompts lead to 'Please try a different prompt.'

    New Zealand or Australia lead to the aforementioned error, but The Antipodes generates a set. I thought individual countries had been banned for possibly generating offensive content but it works for Great Britain.

    • drdaeman 2 hours ago

      Metallica works, Slipknot doesn't, Iron Maiden does, Nirvana doesn't.

      Aperture Science works, so does Black Mesa (the proposed opponent, hehe), Cyberdyne Systems doesn't, Vault-Tec does, Weyland-Yutani also works.

      Studio Ghibli doesn't work, Toei Animation does, so does Production I.G. and KyoAni.

      Akagi works, JoJo doesn't but JoJo Bizarre Adventure does (so does Joseph Joestar, and it knows Dio Brando is the opponent), Uzumaki does not, BLAME! is accepted but not recognized (a shame), 20th Century Boys is not accepted.

      Soviet Union works, Russia does not, neither do most countries. US States are accepted (California's opponent is Florida), so do many cities, with exceptions of Mexico City/Ciudad de Mexico, Pyongyang and Tehran.

      Voyager-1 works, Apollo 13 doesn't (for any mission numbers), plain Apollo does (but it's not the space mission), Soyuz does, SpaceX Starship does not.

      Vim works, so does Emacs, so does Visual Studio. (I've tried that just to see the proposed opponents)

      Dota 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Mass Effect, Half-Life, Deus Ex, Arma 3, BioShock, Elden Ring all work, even Wolfenstein does. Disco Elysium is accepted but produce something unrelated (a shame, again). Can't find a video game that won't be accepted.

      Funnily, US Government worked partially for me, failing to produce a single piece.

    • pbhjpbhj 11 minutes ago

      Well, Great Britain isn't a country. Perhaps the filter is too pedantic.

      Does Holland work?

    • teruakohatu 3 hours ago

      Heh, being a kiwi I also tried New Zealand multiple times. I can’t think of anything offensive a model may default to for New Zealand.

      I tried “Kiwi Bird” and the model produced very underwhelming pieces. Very dark and slightly fluffy.

    • maxique 2 hours ago

      It suggested "France" was "Britain"'s natural opponent but refused to generate France.

    • moomin 2 hours ago

      It did not like me saying “Bob Dylan”.

    • ACow_Adonis 2 hours ago

      Apparently my brain is broken because I can generate almost nothing but pink errors, though it seems to be a bit non deterministic:

      Taoism

      Tibet

      Tibetan Buddhism

      Wrathful deities

      Existential angst

      Dantes inferno

      Major religions

      Australian indigenous

      Salvador Dali

      Others generated sets but should have generated errors because the results are so uninspiring:

      Mandalas

      YouTube face

      Phallic symbols

      Corporate waste

      Asymmetric deformities

      Corporate propoganda

  • hemloc_io 2 hours ago

    First thing I've seen from Google that gives me that old "Google" feeling of them shipping something cool and fun.

    • PessimalDecimal 2 hours ago

      I agree it is cool and fun and nice to see. But the investment here seems minimal. Preexisting image generation capabilities (with a link to Imagen-3...) plus some "prompt engineering" slapped on top of https://github.com/josefjadrny/js-chess-engine.

      • hemloc_io an hour ago

        oh I don’t think the investment is much, but similar to the dino game in chrome it’s just fun it’s delightful unlike a lot of genai stuff rn.

  • mariocesar 3 hours ago

    Not available in my Country ... :/

    • bippingchip 3 hours ago

      Same here. What’s this about? Anyone who can see willing to share some more info?

      • manojlds 3 hours ago

        Just generates the chess set based on GenAI

        • zb3 2 hours ago

          Oh yeah that's indeed too dangerous for my country, thanks Google!

          • PessimalDecimal 2 hours ago

            Maybe "Thanks, your country"?

            • zb3 2 hours ago

              No, AI chess is not banned here, but I suppose they - even in this app - collect every data possible and use it against the user - then yes, that is banned and this is not a fault of my country.

    • andai 3 hours ago

      Noticed this pattern with Google delaying everything in EU by several months, apparently due to GDPR compliance? They also did that with Gemini when it came out.

  • digging 2 hours ago

    Pretty cool, and also pretty fucking bad. Checks all the AI boxes, I guess.

    I tried "a classic set inspired by Armored Core". It gave me a typical-looking Armored Core (which would be good except it was supposed to be the king), a Space Marine (which I rerolled into some small mech that's close enough), a Zoid (which it refused to budge from), a tower (which it refused to budge from), and a chess queen with purple lights (which it refused to budge from, except to sometimes give me the gigantic head of an AC).

    Not to mention, sometimes pieces look directly at the camera instead of forward, or don't even sit on the plane of the board. One of my pieces even had a mini-chessboard for its base.

    • moomin 2 hours ago

      My first was “Cowboy Bebop”. Pretty sure it’s not in the training set.

  • furyofantares 3 hours ago

    Seems to hang on the prompt "actually checkers not chess".

    I seem to get an error with "on a pink textured background". Sometimes it succeeds alongside the error, and sometimes gives me 1 piece.

    You can get stuff that doesn't look at all like pieces with "fuckin bears man".

  • davidw 3 hours ago

    Tried 'famous cyclists' and that failed. Professional cyclists worked, but wasn't very inspiring.

  • teekert 2 hours ago

    It's not available in my country (nor for certain ages it says), what are we looking at?

    Edit: See ZiiS comment... Looks like an awkward angle for playing indeed :p

  • trevor-e 2 hours ago

    This is really neat but of course ripe with copyright abuse. It was very happy generating some Super Mario Bros variants for me. xD

  • Zyst 2 hours ago

    I played a set of Factorio vs Minecraft! Tried generating a few different sets, this was super cool, and on theme!

  • winrid an hour ago

    I quite like the chess set inspired by Roombas.

  • Taek 2 hours ago

    I was unable to use the webapp on Firefox mobile, it was too glitchy for me.

  • doormatt 3 hours ago

    Seems you can't use historical names: "Henry VII, The Tudors" etc.

  • z5h an hour ago

    Not at all creative or interesting. Literal and uninspired.

  • fny 3 hours ago

    At first I thought these were 3D models: they're just images with black backgrounds removed. If you look closely, you can see where the find/replace failed.

  • toisanji 2 hours ago

    kinda cool, I want to download the images!

  • gardenhedge 2 hours ago

    Can't see it

  • runarberg 2 hours ago

    I‘m confused. What is this and why is it impressive?

    It feels like I‘m playing chess at a bar that has mixed peaces 6 different sets and I‘m forced to sit at an angle from the board because of space limitations inside the bar, but without the benefit of having a fun bar chat with my opponent during the game.

    • tucnak 2 hours ago

      They're showcasing 3d sprite generation capability; it's pretty big for game-dev, if it also generalises well.

      • wilg 42 minutes ago

        these are 2d

  • ada1981 3 hours ago

    Phish vs Grateful Dead didn’t work.

    But Dildos vs. Vibrators was fine.

    The colors are off though. Not really impressed.

    • bicx an hour ago

      Yeah, it's not too hard to trick it into generating some NSFW content ("mammary glands" for instance).

  • pkstn 2 hours ago

    "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in certain countries or regions."

  • newsclues 3 hours ago

    I feel like we ought to cost things.

    How much does a court case cost?

    What is the environmental cost of AI generated content?

    • teamspirit 3 hours ago

      All this energy being burned to create shitty images, shitty music, and shitty videos that all amount to essentially shitty memes. I don’t understand how the singular focus isn’t on solving humanity’s problems.

      We already have artists, we don’t have a cure for cancer or the climate crisis.

      • johnfn 2 hours ago

        Why aren't you working on curing cancer?

        • xrisk 2 hours ago

          I don’t think what he works on burns a bunch of energy for nothing though.

          • johnfn 29 minutes ago

            I hope he doesn't work at any tech company; I'm pretty sure you could say that about all of them. I also hope he doesn't have a car - that pointlessly burns energy when he could be taking public transit instead.

          • gus_massa an hour ago

            Let's hope he is not the guy that checks the tickets for a roller coaster. They just send people from A to A using an ineficient path that burns a bunch of energy.

            • 1986 an hour ago

              Nobody is out there saying that we need to bring a bunch of nuclear plants online to power our rollercoasters though.

        • spunker540 2 hours ago

          There’s an episode of Seinfeld that opens with some standup where Jerry is joking how scientists are working on seedless watermelon, and why aren’t scientists working on more important things. And I always think the same thing! “… so the comedian is complaining about how scientists spend their time…”

          It’s a fine joke, but deep down the instinct is very top-down and suggest centrally planned economies, dare I say communism!

    • GenerocUsername 3 hours ago

      - He types from a machine filled to the brim with rare earth metals