54 comments

  • throwup238 a year ago

    Looks like global productivity will see a small but positive bump today.

    • BLKNSLVR a year ago

      If only Slack could take some of its 0.0x% sometime soon, I might be able to finish off three or four dangling threads.

  • pastage a year ago

    I understand why it is still popular, I first used it at my current job and for the life of me I do not understand how people put up with it. It is one of the worst applications I use in my daily work life.

    • dec0dedab0de a year ago

      Almost 20 years ago, I remember getting in an argument with a new manager who was pushing for the company to use Exchange “because that’s what businesses do”

      Then about 5 years ago something similar happened at another company when I was against 365. Their argument was “I know it sucks, but that’s microsoft’s preferred way”

      There are a lot of people with decision making power that base their decisions solely on marketing material.

      • larsnystrom a year ago

        But what options are there? You pretty much must choose between Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace.

        • dec0dedab0de a year ago

          postfix and dovecot with an smtp relay service, and let people use whatever client they want, or that comes with their OS.

          I’m kidding, I know that nobody runs programs on their own computers anymore.

    • lifestyleguru a year ago

      Opposing Microsoft products and services is career ending attitude in the enterprise environment. Bill and Steve (the other one) are not such nice guys as many think.

    • oniony a year ago

      Then you should think yourself lucky that you've never had to use Lotus Notes.

      • pridkett a year ago

        Yes, but I also remember in 2007 how I could just pound through hundreds of emails on a flight (this was pre-Internet days) and when I landed all my sent messages would just magically get sent. Sure some IMAP clients had the concept of an outbox when they couldn’t connect to send an email, but I never found one that worked as well as Lotus Notes.

        Fantastic master-master replication distributed database with a very poor email client built on top.

    • financetechbro a year ago

      I believe most people, including myself, don’t have a choice in the matter…

  • null3d a year ago

    I only wish it was down... it's all good here in NL.

    • jeroenhd a year ago

      It was down this morning, producing a plaintext 404 for some endpoints for some reason. Seems like they managed to fix most of it, though.

    • CodeCompost a year ago

      We're having problems here in NL.

      SharePoint Online search is broken too.

      • null3d a year ago

        SharePoint is broken by default, no?

        • raxxorraxor a year ago

          Yes. I have to develop against it sometimes. It is ridiculous how buggy this old software still is. And MS tries to put "new" features into it and shutting down hopelessly old but still more feature-rich components, making it even worse over time.

      • LandR a year ago

        > SharePoint Online search is broken too.

        How could you tell ?

  • mrweasel a year ago

    If only there was some way, maybe through decentralization, to ensure that not all of Microsoft Exchange customer where down at the same time. Maybe if there where a self-hosting option, or a partner network that could offer these service. Oh well, guess we'll never know.

    • slater a year ago

      Get out of here with that crazy talk

  • tallanvor a year ago

    MO941162, not that it gets updated that often.

  • latentcall a year ago

    If only it could stay down forever. :)

  • gn4d a year ago

    fucking retards still have their status page set to "We're all good!"

    haha, nothing ever changes

  • jccalhoun a year ago

    Oh no! Now I won't be able to attend our weekly monday morning meeting! The horror!

  • mkl a year ago

    > With your agreement, we and our 870 partners use cookies or similar technologies to store, access, and process personal data

    !! Surely there's a more respectable source.

    Anyway, Outlook is working fine for me here in NZ. This news seems to be a day old: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MO941162

    • mrweasel a year ago

      EuroNews is generally pretty respectable, but it is sad that their cookie/tracking banner isn't compliant. Equally sad that no one at EuroNews management have seen the banner and though: 870 partners seems like 867 to many.

      Arguably EuroNews is a strange source for news like this, but companies like Microsoft and Amazon are terrible about communicating outages directly.

      • Terretta a year ago

        On the contrary, it seems compliant?

        The link to continue without agreeing is right at the top with the warning, and not buried somewhere in settings (and especially not sending you to each of the 800 to opt out individually like so many firms helpfully offer).

        • mrweasel a year ago

          Does the rule require that the two options are "equal", which they are not in this case.

        • ffsm8 a year ago

          Indeed, they just hid it in the logo. If that's not malicious compliance...

      • hulitu a year ago

        > EuroNews is generally pretty respectable

        Was. A long time ago. Today they are just propaganda spreaders.

    • hcaz a year ago

      More respectable source - https://x.com/MSFT365Status

      • ttepasse a year ago

        How do you evaluate respectability in this case? The icon that meant verified on Twitter now only means that someone paid money to X.

        (And of course you can't read it if you're not logged in.)

        • Trellmor a year ago

          In this case you can find this X account linked on some Microsoft status pages.

          https://status.cloud.microsoft/

        • ivewonyoung a year ago

          Exactly like how you evaluate respectability on any platform including the web. Not like there are reliable checkmarks everywhere you go.

        • EGreg a year ago

          I respect them more. So that’s one data point..

          (PS: Poe’s law).

      • Dalewyn a year ago

        [flagged]

        • reddotchaser a year ago

          Twitter is unusable if you don’t have an account. Only thing that works is direct link to tweets. I imagine there are plenty of privacy conscious people on this platform who don’t have social media accounts so a link to a Twitter account is pretty much useless for them.

          • voidfunc a year ago

            [flagged]

            • contracertainty a year ago

              Hey, privacy is a vald concern. I could just as easily say 'When you say "privacy doesn't matter" most of us hear "moron".

              Try being a bit more civil next time.

              • ivewonyoung a year ago

                Privacy isn't free and comes with its own costs. I give up on a lot of things but I also realize programmers and ops people need to eat too, and servers, bandwidth aren't free.

                • zelphirkalt 10 months ago

                  Lets not ship so much tracking and ads, this way we can reduce the amount of sent data a lot!

            • wizzwizz4 a year ago

              I got banned within 10 minutes when I tried that. (Twitter's TOS says I'm no longer allowed to create accounts.)

        • jasonjayr a year ago

          By default, the posts are all out of order. Top 5 posts are from 2022, 2023, 2020, Jul 19 (Crowdstrike), Jul 18. (in that specific order)

          Not really useful for the 'latest' going on.

          Twitter used to be able to do that, was super useful to get the pulse of a current event.

          • ivewonyoung a year ago

            It's a countermeasure to intensive scraping by bots for AI purposes that was costing them a lot of server costs.

          • Dalewyn a year ago

            Not sure what's wrong with your feed, if I go to that account the top post is from 3 hours ago concerning this outage along with two replies at 2 hours and then ~48 minutes ago located right under it.

          • reddotchaser a year ago

            Yeah I used to use Twitter without an account quite a bit and I guess saw a decent amount of ads to make it worthwhile for them. Don’t understand them messing with non-logged in users.

            I haven’t used twitter in a couple of years now because of that even though I’d like to. It’s completely useless unless I’ve a direct link to a tweet

        • worble a year ago

          I didn't downvote, but my only problem is that I can't tell if it's a more respectable source or not since twitter won't let me see anything without creating an account ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • BLKNSLVR a year ago

      Checking in from Oz, Outlook was working fine 30 minutes ago.

    • Terretta a year ago

      The thing about this that's troubling is that you saw it and it troubled you.

      Most sites linked from HN you don't see that number even though it often numbers in the thousands; and if you do get told, they don't let you use a single click to continue without agreeing.

      I was pleasantly surprised how transparent this was, and that I could just disagree and continue, instead of the usual GDPR-dodging dark patterns.

    • snickerbockers a year ago

      If people cared about that they wouldn't be using Microsoft.

      • TrueDuality a year ago

        So many unfortunately don't have a choice

        • snickerbockers a year ago

          Uhhh... is Bill gates holding your family hostage???

          • TrueDuality a year ago

            No, but my work is holding my paycheck hostage.

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