Probably never. DHH wants to keep Rails small enough that a 1 person founder can use it and be productive with it. Shopify is already massive and some of their projects are taking them in a different direction than DHH wants for Rails. For example, Liquid templates (which are intentionally less powerful than ERB since they're designed to be used by Shopify store owners) and Sorbet (DHH hates types).
Ugh, all the companies that start with S and use Ruby. My bad. Got thrown off because they have Sorbet stuff in Ruby LSP and other Sorbet tools. They have 1.1k Github repos... Lots of TS, Go, Rust and lots of non-Rails things...
Not sure if DHH gets access to codebase. I hope this help shape future of Ruby Rails. Shopify is many order of magnitude larger than 37Signals and pose many unique challenges. Hopefully this means more stuff gets extracted out into Rails.
Shopify has 1.1k public Github repos... Not sure how you'd integrate that into Rails lol, or why you'd want to. Also the challenges for someone starting a Rails app are different than Shopify.
This discussion was fantastic - great flow, no filler words.
I love the passion and fun they were having while talking about the company, business, marketplace incentives, Ruby on Rails and mechanical keyboards! It was fun watching them have fun.
I find it faschinating how much Shopify has invested in Ruby / Rails, at what point will Shopify just merge with the Ruby Team?
Probably never. DHH wants to keep Rails small enough that a 1 person founder can use it and be productive with it. Shopify is already massive and some of their projects are taking them in a different direction than DHH wants for Rails. For example, Liquid templates (which are intentionally less powerful than ERB since they're designed to be used by Shopify store owners) and Sorbet (DHH hates types).
Their pet web framework remix is also quite underfunded compared to Next.js
DHH joining won't help that I suspect
> Sorbet (DHH hates types).
I believe Sorbet is from Stripe?
Ugh, all the companies that start with S and use Ruby. My bad. Got thrown off because they have Sorbet stuff in Ruby LSP and other Sorbet tools. They have 1.1k Github repos... Lots of TS, Go, Rust and lots of non-Rails things...
I hope this leads to DHH adopting Sorbet into Rails given Shopify has a strong interest in it.
On second thought, It is a large investment for something that isn't a core Ruby feature.
Shopify also owns remix/react router
Not sure if DHH gets access to codebase. I hope this help shape future of Ruby Rails. Shopify is many order of magnitude larger than 37Signals and pose many unique challenges. Hopefully this means more stuff gets extracted out into Rails.
I believe Shopify has core contributors to Ruby and Rails already, I don't think a board position changes much there.
Shopify has 1.1k public Github repos... Not sure how you'd integrate that into Rails lol, or why you'd want to. Also the challenges for someone starting a Rails app are different than Shopify.
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This discussion was fantastic - great flow, no filler words.
I love the passion and fun they were having while talking about the company, business, marketplace incentives, Ruby on Rails and mechanical keyboards! It was fun watching them have fun.