X's Moonshot for Circularity

(x.company)

38 points | by surprisetalk 3 hours ago ago

23 comments

  • bearjaws 2 hours ago

    For those as confused as I was, this is not another one of Elon's X companies. Appears to be funded by Alphabet.

    • mintplant 2 hours ago

      Alphabet's X has been around for quite a while, too. I don't know how they let him get away with that, unless "X" is perhaps too generic to trademark.

      • whywhywhywhy 2 hours ago

        >I don't know how they let him get away with that,

        Because Elon's X.com predates Alphabet's X by 16 years...

        • 015a 2 hours ago

          Owning the domain name isn't a singularly valid way to assert trademark control; it has to be used. Elon had an "X" company way back when, but it became Paypal; they didn't really use the X name in a public fashion for very long at all.

          The reason is probably more-so that Google's "X" isn't apparently a legal entity; its a division within Google. So, it doesn't have consumer sentiment around it, its not a product name they're selling, its not a registered entity, etc. In other words: "Skunkworks" as a term originated from a division at Lockheed, now its a term many companies use, oftentimes in legal & public ways, but Lockheed really doesn't have grounds to stop them from doing so.

        • tobr 2 hours ago

          The domain name? Or a trademark?

          • efdee 2 hours ago

            X.com was a bank funded by (amongst others) Musk in 1999. They later merged with Confinity to found PayPal.

            • echoangle an hour ago

              Ok, but don’t you lose the trademark if you don’t actively use it?

              • colejohnson66 an hour ago

                Not necessarily. It's generally a challenge that causes you to lose it. But 'X' is so generic, it's arguable that it might not even be eligible for trademark protection.

      • SoftTalker 2 hours ago

        I idly wondered if Google owned the "alphabet" of .company names: a.company, b.company, etc. But it appears not.

      • rsynnott 28 minutes ago

        It almost certainly is.

      • a1o 2 hours ago

        Wasn't it named as Moonshot Factory? I get a sense that at some point it was part of Google itself.

    • red_hare 2 hours ago

      My hint was that the about page linked to their "Twitter"

      • drcongo an hour ago

        That and the fact that the logo isn't the least effort Fivr job ever.

        • rsynnott 26 minutes ago

          It is a _much_ better logo, which is perhaps surprising given that it's a skunkworks rather than a major social media network. Possibly Musk just fired all Twitter's designers before getting around to the rebrand.

    • bob1029 2 hours ago

      > x.com

      > x.company

      > X, a division of Google LLC. All rights reserved.

      Took me a solid 90 seconds.

  • ameliaquining 2 hours ago

    Note for anyone who was initially confused, as I was: This is the Alphabet subsidiary that does blue-sky R&D, not the company formerly known as Twitter.

  • datadrivenangel 2 hours ago

    New google moonshot to do "molecular recycling", but their first pilots are for using ML and sensors to better sort waste streams.

    This is useful tech, but the solution to most waste is to burn it for power with great emission controls.

    • semi-extrinsic 2 hours ago

      If we're eventually going to close the carbon cycle, it would be extremely stupid to go e.g. polyethylene -> CO2 capture from flue gas -> ethylene synthesis with H2 -> polyethylene.

      Sorting out the plastic and doing stuff like anaerobic thermochemical conversion is way more efficient. No need to get the oxygen involved.

      • xnx an hour ago

        Is pyrolysis a good option?

  • syntaxing 2 hours ago

    (Formerly Google X) X has been a thing since 2010…it’s where Waymo started before “graduating”.