8 comments

  • namaria 17 hours ago

    There hasn't been any social ruptures over the possible sentience of whales hunted to near extinction, dolphins caught in fishing nets, cows, pigs. There will be no uproar over the feelings of chatbots.

    • _aavaa_ 17 hours ago

      Those situations are not really comparable. Nobody has conversations with dolphins or whales in human languages, whereas "talking" with a chatbot is fairly trivial to do and becoming a fair universal experience, at least in the global north.

      • namaria 16 hours ago

        Is written language the only way you can conceive of empathizing?

        Besides, people seem more than happy to ignore the suffering of fellow humans, even as they profit from it. There would be no cheap electronics without great human suffering in the mining industry, for a quick example.

        • _aavaa_ 5 minutes ago

          I wasn’t trying to emphasize the written aspect, I was trying to emphasize that we interact with the chatbots in a way that’s natural to us.

          And yes we do. It’s very easy to do that because we don’t talk with them. We don’t have to see what they live through and how they feel about it. If every electronic device came with an hour or two of voice/video call with even one of the people who slaved away in the factory to build it, that might change.

    • rightbyte 14 hours ago

      Possibly sentient? Aren't like crows sentient? Like, with the 'red dot in face in mirror' test?

    • Gravityloss 13 hours ago

      Well, there has been some social rupture on some of those things.

  • jrflowers 18 hours ago

    I don’t understand, why would the overnight emergence of a handful of groups claiming Minority Report-level foreknowledge be a cause for social awkwardness?

  • pulvinar 18 hours ago

    The arguments could be over if people were to carefully define the words they're using, and any controversial words in those definitions. It would show either that they're talking about two different things, or as is more often the case here, that they truly don't know what they're talking about.