Scientists discover laser light can cast a shadow

(phys.org)

53 points | by passwordoops 10 months ago ago

21 comments

  • zifk 10 months ago

    This feels like lazy reporting. One beam isn't blocking the other, it's inducing a localized nonlinear process in a material which then absorbs the crossing beam. This isn't a novel process.

    It's like me saying if I close a door I'm casting a shadow, sure, I caused it, but it's not my shadow.

    • mikewarot 10 months ago

      I was about to say the same thing... unless they can do this in vacuum, it's a curiosity, but not something novel.

    • Dylan16807 10 months ago

      Now do it without moving the door. That's what makes this interesting. It uses the crystal, but it's not changing the crystal.

    • mannykannot 10 months ago

      I suppose one could say that opening a second path in an interferometer also 'casts a shadow', though by a different mechanism.

      This sort of usage does not bother me (at least at what I perceive as this benign level.) Metaphor and simile are part of the expressive power of human language, and both writing and reading would become tedious if we tried to eliminate them.

  • gnabgib 10 months ago

    Source publication (3 points, 3 days ago, 3 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42139019

  • pfdietz 10 months ago

    Exploits nonlinear optical interactions in a medium (ruby) to cause one beam to cast a shadow from another beam.

    • Animats 10 months ago

      Right. Materials with nonlinear optical properties make optical logic possible. Here's an overview of that.[1]

      Cross-gain modulation (XGM)

      XGM has been investigated extensively to design optical logic gates with SOA. It is assumed that there are two input light beams for each SOA. One is the probe light and the other is the much stronger pump light. The probe light cannot pass through the SOA when the pump light saturates it. The probe light can go through the SOA when the pump light is absent.

      [1] https://www.oejournal.org/article/doi/10.29026/oes.2022.2200...

  • passwordoops 10 months ago

    Link to the paper in Optica, "Shadow of a laser beam"

    https://opg.optica.org/optica/fulltext.cfm?uri=optica-11-11-...

  • valine 10 months ago

    Maybe this is wishful thinking but could something like this be used to make star wars style holograms? Strategically placed laser shadows to block light sounds like a useful tool in that direction.

    • telgareith 10 months ago

      We have holograms that are in 'open' space. The problem is they aren't particularly fast, safe, or interestingly- quiet.

      The ones I know of converge multiple beams at a point; this results in a Bloom (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_blooming). Not sure how they aim the beams. (Voice coil and mirrors, digital mirror device aka DLP. Both valid options with pros and cons)

  • easeout 10 months ago

    So slapdash Unity asset store video games were right all along!

    • zeofig 10 months ago

      Never bet against Unity

  • lifeplusplus 10 months ago

    This seems interesting and bit lame quirk but I've a gut feeling there is a lot more potential here

  • KuriousCat 10 months ago

    Interesting, Initially I thought it was a laser-laser interaction happening in vacuum.

  • d--b 10 months ago

    You can make logical gates from this, right?

    • dp-hackernews 10 months ago

      Like a floating electrical circuit, or one inside some sort of fiber-optic, performing in a transistor, resistor, or diode like way?

      How would you manage the excess/unused/unwanted laser though, switching? I.e. would it be absorbed or reused to prevent it bouncing around etc.

    • eecc 10 months ago

      I guess so... probably OOK, I wonder what's the relaxation time of the medium