Our Better Nature: Great Pumpkins

(saturdayeveningpost.com)

44 points | by bookofjoe 4 days ago ago

25 comments

  • simonw 5 hours ago

    "In 2023, Minnesota resident Travis Gienger, who teaches horticulture, aptly enough, broke the world record for the biggest pumpkin. His 2,749-pound entry beat the old record, set in 2021 by an Italian farmer, by 47 pounds."

    I was there for that! I used my photo of the moment he beat the world record in my blog post about GPT-4 vision prompt injection attacks: https://simonwillison.net/2023/Oct/14/multi-modal-prompt-inj...

    Here's my Mastodon thread from this year's competition. Travis competed (and won) again but didn't get a new world record, though another competitor did set the record for the largest pumpkin ever grown in California: https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon/113306150061413548

  • pvaldes 9 hours ago

    (ehum... vegetable steroids -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberellin ).

    Genetic and care help, a lot, but there are fertilizers and "fertilizers".

    • 082349872349872 9 hours ago

      I dimly recall a Daedalus DREADCO column which, starting from hydroponics, was exploring the limits of artificial vegetative growth, and came to the conclusion that under the right conditions, it was all a question of how much energy one was willing to pump in.

      Maybe we need a fleet of satellites beaming formed microwaves down to our giant Cucurbitaceae?

      (my wife kept prompting me to harvest my radishes this summer; by the time I actually got around to it, they'd grown to sizes ranging from a small potato to an entire fist)

    • Mistletoe 7 hours ago

      I was hoping you were wrong but nope. We can’t even have pumpkin growing contests anymore without PEDs.

      >Gibberellic acid: In the young fruit stage of pumpkin, apply 10-20mg/L gibberellic acid solution to the young fruit, apply once every 5-7 days for a total of 2 to 3 times, which can obviously promote hypertrophy and accelerate maturity, which can improve quality.

      >https://m.plantgrowthhormones.com/info/for-pumpkin-planting-...

  • joe8756438 8 hours ago

    I’ve had terrible luck growing pumpkins until this year when I put five root bound starts in the former bedding of my goose flock. All the starts were tangled together in a two gallon pot, didn’t even bother separating. Those plants easily produced 200lbs of pumpkins.

    My neighbor, who gave me the starts and took much greater care with the plants, had all of his die from various pests and diseases.

    • dylan604 5 hours ago

      I had a pumpkin patch growing earlier this year that was decimated by bugs. I tried every "organic" method of treating the bugs to no avail. It was all just for the lulz, and specifically wanted to avoid pesticides. The bugs won

      • joe8756438 2 hours ago

        My takeaway from that experience is that nutrition is the best way to prevent disease/pests. once there’s a problem it’s probably too late.

        • dylan604 an hour ago

          The plants were healthy until the bugs. The vines were growing, the leaves were huge, and they had just started to produce flowers. I've never seen the type of bugs, some stink bug type of beetle, in my yard ever before. Now that I've removed the dead plants, there's no sign of the bugs. For as many as there were, I'd expect to see some remaining. It's always a learning experience growing new plants

  • smusamashah 9 hours ago

    > especially as they mature and gain from 30 to 50 pounds per day

    That's about 0.25 grams per second. Or 15 grams per minute. If put on a scale, i am assuming you could witness it growing in near real-time.

    • adrian_b 9 hours ago

      The greatest part of that continuously added mass is just water pumped from the soil.

      When you compute the added dry mass per second, divided by the mass of the plant, the rate is still big, but much less impressive.

      • adriand 8 hours ago

        That’s what I’m going to tell myself when I stand on the bathroom scale in the morning. “I’m not fat, if I just compute my dry mass, I’m in superb condition.”

        • Swizec 6 hours ago

          > That’s what I’m going to tell myself when I stand on the bathroom scale in the morning. “I’m not fat, if I just compute my dry mass, I’m in superb condition.”

          So fun fact: I like to weigh myself before and after long runs on sunday (15mi+). 5lbs to 7lbs difference. All water. You really can sweat off 7lbs of your weight in a couple hours if you want to.

          • bookofjoe 2 hours ago

            Reminds me my little brother in high school, running for hours in a rubber suit to make his weight.

          • basch an hour ago

            probably mostly respiration?

  • metalman 6 hours ago

    Giant vegtable growing contests are ancient and in certain pacific island populations,social status is closely conected to the size/quality of the yams that someone grows the first true gigantic pumpkins were grown just down the road from me,and giant pumpkins are growing (hidden) everywhere,highly competitive and subject to ANY tactic to grow/get a bigger pumpkin or judging by the paranoia,finding a way to induce splitting in a rivals pumpkins,as any hole or split,suspicious marks,disqualify a pumpkin from competition

  • sharpshadow 4 days ago

    Would be fun if somebody would grow them in a big acrylic glass cube to make them come out square.

  • ReptileMan 9 hours ago

    And not a single Blandings Castle or Lord Emsworth joke.