Ataraxia

(en.wikipedia.org)

67 points | by keepamovin a day ago ago

25 comments

  • f5ve 12 hours ago

    Josh Hartnett's suave insouciance in Lucky Number Slevin (2006) is accounted for by him "having ataraxia." [1] That is, as if it were a medical condition. I'm sure it was intended as a joke, but apparently wiktionary says "ataraxy" is sometimes used in a similar way, although I've never seen that. [2]

    [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjDTmTAy5rs

    [2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ataraxy#English

    • n4r9 3 hours ago

      Reminds me of the film Office Space, where Peter is hypnotised to (temporarily) have no cares in the world, but the hypnostist dies before snapping his fingers [0]. There's also a very similar trope in the first episode of the show Black Books, where Manny swallows the "Little Book of Calm", absorbs it into his body, and becomes a Jesus-like calm presence for a while.

      [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZpEe7KIJ8

      [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_dMEX_Lke0

      • tessierashpool9 an hour ago

        but was jesus jesus-like calm?

            "And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
        
            — Matthew 21:12–13, King James Version[10]
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        • n4r9 20 minutes ago

          I suppose I meant "calm like the modern image of Jesus, that has dramatically evolved and been cultivated over 2 thousand years", but that's a bit of a mouthful.

    • throwaway71271 2 hours ago

      I have a friend that has it.

      On his first day of work he missed the bus, so he called our boss and just said "I missed the bus, the next one is tomorrow morning, see you tomorrow".

      Working on any kind of problem with him is absolute joy, from outages to designing new features, including once when the server burned down and everything was lost.

      • thunderbong an hour ago

        Would love to hear some more anecdotes

    • stakhanov 2 hours ago

      > "having ataraxia." [1] That is, as if it were a medical condition.

      There is kind of a noticeable overlap between the stoic ideal and a schizoid personality style. For people who are already left-brain-dominant / spectrumy, or whatever you might call it, which applies to a lot of people in the computing profession, getting into stoicism as a philosophy and lifestyle is probably maladaptive.

    • keepamovin 8 hours ago

      I'm gonna check that out, now! Thank you for the recommend :)

      As an actor, I wonder if he was merely simulating ataraxy or if he genuinely had it? Perhaps, as an actor, there's no difference!

      BTW that clip was hilarious thank you! Hahaha :)

      • 082349872349872 3 hours ago

        Ataraxia? Upekṣā? 与道合一? 不動心? Don't harsh my mellow, man; they're all the same to me...

  • Raztuf 2 hours ago

    Funny to learn this word today. Stuff have been pretty rough for me these past few month and I have been unknowingly practicing ataraxia. Problems (at least mine) are temporary, instead of lamenting I should stay cool and enjoy what I have, preparing for the better days. It's truly liberating.

    • giamma 2 hours ago

      In Epicureanism ataraxia is paired with ἀπονία (aponia).

      Aponia is for the body what ataraxia is for the mind. You can find more details in the Wikipedia page about Epicureanism [1]. True pleasure comes from the absence of spiritual trouble and the absence of physical pain. The Latins used to say "mens sana in corpore sano" (healthy mind in a healthy body)

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicureanism

    • Cthulhu_ 2 hours ago

      Next question / consideration in your situation of course is whether it's ataraxia, indifference, stoicism, emotional numbing, or disassociation. I think they're probably all related concepts.

  • orobus 2 hours ago

    One of my professors liked to translate it as “un-stirred-up-ness” which I always loved.

  • imdsm an hour ago

    What's the opposite? Because that's the one I have.

  • snitzr 2 hours ago

    Chill vibes.

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    • thrance an hour ago

      Yes, it's "funny" how an ancient philosophy of "you should be happy with your natural place in the universe, even if you were born a slave" was co-opted by a movement claiming you should strive to escape your current financial situation, all by yourself.

      I think they were mostly interested in the "real men don't cry" part of stoicism.

    • escapecharacter 3 hours ago

      Non-fungible feelings

    • UniverseHacker 3 hours ago

      How in the Neal Stephenson were the ancient Greeks cryptobros?

      • tokai an hour ago

        Apparently one of the earlies described scams was done by a greek merchant called Hegestratos.

      • fnordian_slip an hour ago

        There seems to be quite a bit of overlap between cryptocurrency enthusiasts (at least those of the silicon valley variety) and get-enlightened-quick people, and the current favourite flavour of the latter seems to be stoicism. At least that's my best explanation as an outsider.

    • davedx 3 hours ago

      Yeah it's interesting how newer cultures syncretise aspects of much older ideas like that.