Show HN: 4B+ DNS Records Dataset

(merklemap.com)

90 points | by Eikon 2 years ago ago

28 comments

  • genmud 2 years ago

    Neat! How is this different than domaintools/farsight [1]?

    Passive DNS [2] has been in my toolbox for 15+ years, and is invaluable for security research / threat intelligence. Knowing historical resolutions to something are so helpful in investigations.

    For anyone interested, they should check out the talk by one of the DomainTools people [3] on how it can be utilized for investigation.

    Are you passively collecting this data, or actively querying for these records?

    [1] - https://www.domaintools.com/products/threat-intelligence-fee...

    [2] - https://www.circl.lu/services/passive-dns/

    [3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmapqLkZd0

    • lyu07282 2 years ago

      is this making use of letsencrypt as well? afaik all letsencrypt signed certificates including all subdomains are immediately public, which could be useful for security research as well

      • Eikon 2 years ago

        It's not about letsencrypt but certificate transparency which works the same for all public CAs.

        I wrote a documentation piece here:

        https://www.merklemap.com/documentation/how-it-works

      • whalesalad 2 years ago

        At first glance it looks like this data is generated via the public certificate transparency log, so I would imagine the answer is yes.

    • Eikon 2 years ago

      From what I understand [1] is just tlds, not subdomains?

      • genmud 2 years ago

        That would be incorrect, they get subdomains for passive dns feeds.

        • Eikon 2 years ago

          Ok, it'd be interesting to know how big is their datasets compared to mine and how much they overlap.

  • g-mork 2 years ago

    Any possibility of adding (first seen, last seen) time stamps? There is basically no good way to reconstruct the state of e.g. SPF at a point in time from existing DNS data sets

    • Eikon 2 years ago

      I could in future releases, yes.

  • romperstomper 2 years ago

    There are quite many duplicates, looks like for CNAME records only/mostly. Here are some from the beginning

      staging.pannekoeken-poffertjes-restaurant-amstelland.nl,CNAME,www.pannekoeken-poffertjes-restaurant-amstelland.nl.
      staging.pannekoeken-poffertjes-restaurant-amstelland.nl,CNAME,www.pannekoeken-poffertjes-restaurant-amstelland.nl.
      www.domiciliatuempresa.com,CNAME,domiciliatuempresa.com.
      www.domiciliatuempresa.com,CNAME,domiciliatuempresa.com.
      *.autokozmetikakaposvar.hu,CNAME,autokozmetikakaposvar.hu.
      *.autokozmetikakaposvar.hu,CNAME,autokozmetikakaposvar.hu.
      c7ac691a.oob-nuq1907.indubitably.xyz,CNAME,oob-nuq1907.hosts.secretcdn.net.
      c7ac691a.oob-nuq1907.indubitably.xyz,CNAME,oob-nuq1907.hosts.secretcdn.net.
    
    etc
    • Eikon 2 years ago

      It’s because I don’t try to de duplicate and just saves whatever response I get, which translates to this obvious behavior for cnames. Shouldn’t be a big deal.

      I may improve that in future releases.

  • blex 2 years ago

    Is there a good tool to browse big text archives, like .csv.xz, .csv.gz, or .7z, without decompressing them?

    I don't want to decompress 29 GB into 211 GB each time I want to make a search.

    Except grep / zgrep, is there a good tool/viewer (or hex editor that can decompress parts of big files for display) for this general task?

  • ciclista 2 years ago

    Would love the option of torrenting the file, download seems quite slow, and hopefully it would save you some bandwidth!

    • Eikon 2 years ago

      I was thinking about that, I’ll experiment by adding a .torrent file :)

  • g48ywsJk6w48 2 years ago

    Thank you for data set!!! It is not always lowercase, so it have some duplicates.

    Also you can avoid unnecessary data with analyze CNAME records. -- domain.tld CNAME www.domain.tld -- So you can use only domain.tld or www.domain.tld records.

  • m3047 2 years ago

    I've worked in the industry at IID and Farsight. I am skeptical of many claims made by IoC vendors.

    You need timestamps, or first / last seen.

    Records don't exist in a vacuum. They come in RRsets. They are served (sometimes inconsistently) by different nameservers. Some use cases care about this.

    Records which don't resolve are also useful, especially for use cases which amount to front-running. On any given day if the wind was blowing the right direction .belkin could be one of the top 10 non-resolving TLDs. If your data is any good, check under .cisco for stuff which resolves to 127.0.53.53. ;-)

    Information about provenance (where the data comes from) is required for some use cases.

    We shipped Farsight's DNSDB on one or more 1TB drives, depending on what the customer was purchasing.

  • whalesalad 2 years ago

    211GB seems very small. How is this generated?

    • Eikon 2 years ago

      What makes you think it's small?

  • mobilio 2 years ago

    note - that records can be geolocation routing.

    This mean that from country A i can get records as X, but in country B records can be Y.

    Would be great if you can make new column in CSV that can show about variations - Y/N.

  • 35mm 2 years ago

    How often is it updated?

    Does it include expired domains?

    • Eikon 2 years ago

      > How often is it updated?

      I plan to do 2 releases a month for now, goal is one a day.

      > Does it include expired domains?

      Yes.

      • mh- 2 years ago

        This is fantastically valuable, especially if you can add the first/last-seen as requested by another commenter. Thanks for doing this.

        • Eikon 2 years ago

          Thanks.

          That's quite a fun project!

  • romperstomper 2 years ago

    How many domains in this dataset?

  • nhggfu 2 years ago

    great work OP.

    • Eikon 2 years ago

      Thank you!

  • T3RMINATED 2 years ago

    Where do you get the data from? Does it include subdomains?